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	<title>Comments on: FTTH In Pakistan</title>
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	<description>A blog about telecommunication marketplace in Pakistan with news, information, analysis and trends</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ahmad Khan</title>
		<link>http://telecompk.net/2007/07/20/ftth-placeholder/#comment-11572</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmad Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 07:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this stage Mobilink, Wateen and Wateen has completed their backbone ofc project and PTCL already have with rings for protection are in operational.

I agree with VASWANI NAVAL that to be remain in business is major challege to all operators and to keep thier customers with them

As i think The quality of work done(whole ofc project) now will matter a lot as cable cuts/system configurations etc will effect the SLAs of operators with their customers.

Ahmad khan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this stage Mobilink, Wateen and Wateen has completed their backbone ofc project and PTCL already have with rings for protection are in operational.</p>
<p>I agree with VASWANI NAVAL that to be remain in business is major challege to all operators and to keep thier customers with them</p>
<p>As i think The quality of work done(whole ofc project) now will matter a lot as cable cuts/system configurations etc will effect the SLAs of operators with their customers.</p>
<p>Ahmad khan</p>
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		<title>By: Jamil Ahmed</title>
		<link>http://telecompk.net/2007/07/20/ftth-placeholder/#comment-11140</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamil Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to add few things...

Multinet has already lost its credibility in the corporate/financial services due to their unmanaged MetroNET services. Its only surviving as there are not so many FTTH providers. Sooner or later it will be all over for MultiNET.


Regards
Jamil Ahmed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add few things&#8230;</p>
<p>Multinet has already lost its credibility in the corporate/financial services due to their unmanaged MetroNET services. Its only surviving as there are not so many FTTH providers. Sooner or later it will be all over for MultiNET.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Jamil Ahmed</p>
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		<title>By: Jamil Ahmed</title>
		<link>http://telecompk.net/2007/07/20/ftth-placeholder/#comment-11139</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamil Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author has praised Multinets MetroNET a lot but i think didnt experience their services. Its more worst than a CABLE NET. 

Every 2nd day you are bound to face a downtime due to unknown reasons of viral/broadcast activity which they even unable to trace. 

Cant write anything more. Just pathetic!


Regards
Jamil Ahmed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author has praised Multinets MetroNET a lot but i think didnt experience their services. Its more worst than a CABLE NET. </p>
<p>Every 2nd day you are bound to face a downtime due to unknown reasons of viral/broadcast activity which they even unable to trace. </p>
<p>Cant write anything more. Just pathetic!</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Jamil Ahmed</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio Sunil Sigamony</title>
		<link>http://telecompk.net/2007/07/20/ftth-placeholder/#comment-10307</link>
		<dc:creator>Antonio Sunil Sigamony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well theres one more submarine cable to be deployed by the end of 2009, its called I-ME-WE (india, middle east n western europe), this cable design will cover 14.000 km and a capacity of 3.84 terabits/secs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well theres one more submarine cable to be deployed by the end of 2009, its called I-ME-WE (india, middle east n western europe), this cable design will cover 14.000 km and a capacity of 3.84 terabits/secs.</p>
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		<title>By: MIMO</title>
		<link>http://telecompk.net/2007/07/20/ftth-placeholder/#comment-7992</link>
		<dc:creator>MIMO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FLAG is vPoP'd on which sea me we 3 and whts the internation al bandwidth running on it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FLAG is vPoP&#8217;d on which sea me we 3 and whts the internation al bandwidth running on it</p>
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		<title>By: VASWANI NAVAL</title>
		<link>http://telecompk.net/2007/07/20/ftth-placeholder/#comment-7983</link>
		<dc:creator>VASWANI NAVAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In any system redundancy is very important because now business never sleeps.

In todays competitive world spike can Take a business to the highest elevation of success or can be a disastereous so TW1 has this weakness which is in near future not avoidable.

Secondly yes the systems has an edge but to be in Business and To remain in business are different things.

Yes TW1 is in the Business but for remaining in the business they have to work beacuse The Capital cost or fixed cost is very much of the systems like Optical Fiber Cable systems plus the operative expense.To earn profitability they have to have revenue generationg accounts in good quanitity.

To have sophisticated and Moderntechnology is certainly a Big edge and may have first mover advantage but if it would be a waste if this opportunity not exploited fully as i guess in the case of TW1. Having few accounts will not serve the purpose . This will not even cover breakeven period the technology may obslete or hange.

Also as the time passes they may have to face numerous prolems of system faults.

This is just my views and opinion

Regards

VASWANI NAVAL
iamvaswani@gmail.com
03002237927</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In any system redundancy is very important because now business never sleeps.</p>
<p>In todays competitive world spike can Take a business to the highest elevation of success or can be a disastereous so TW1 has this weakness which is in near future not avoidable.</p>
<p>Secondly yes the systems has an edge but to be in Business and To remain in business are different things.</p>
<p>Yes TW1 is in the Business but for remaining in the business they have to work beacuse The Capital cost or fixed cost is very much of the systems like Optical Fiber Cable systems plus the operative expense.To earn profitability they have to have revenue generationg accounts in good quanitity.</p>
<p>To have sophisticated and Moderntechnology is certainly a Big edge and may have first mover advantage but if it would be a waste if this opportunity not exploited fully as i guess in the case of TW1. Having few accounts will not serve the purpose . This will not even cover breakeven period the technology may obslete or hange.</p>
<p>Also as the time passes they may have to face numerous prolems of system faults.</p>
<p>This is just my views and opinion</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>VASWANI NAVAL<br />
<a href="mailto:iamvaswani@gmail.com">iamvaswani@gmail.com</a><br />
03002237927</p>
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		<title>By: Salman Ahmed</title>
		<link>http://telecompk.net/2007/07/20/ftth-placeholder/#comment-7868</link>
		<dc:creator>Salman Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Bilal,

I do agreed that TWA's have some edge as compare to anyother Telco in Pakistan but can you let us know what if TW1 under sea cable cuts down. What about redundancy, capacity and MTTR?

Multinet also have Pakistan's biggest accounts like Wateen, CitiBank, Telenor etc for IPLC connectivity's on SMW-4 and 100% auto swicthing backup &#38; capacity on SMW-3.


Regards,


Salman Ahmed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Bilal,</p>
<p>I do agreed that TWA&#8217;s have some edge as compare to anyother Telco in Pakistan but can you let us know what if TW1 under sea cable cuts down. What about redundancy, capacity and MTTR?</p>
<p>Multinet also have Pakistan&#8217;s biggest accounts like Wateen, CitiBank, Telenor etc for IPLC connectivity&#8217;s on SMW-4 and 100% auto swicthing backup &amp; capacity on SMW-3.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Salman Ahmed</p>
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		<title>By: Bilal Mughal</title>
		<link>http://telecompk.net/2007/07/20/ftth-placeholder/#comment-2386</link>
		<dc:creator>Bilal Mughal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-I guess when we talk about submarine cable business there are few things very important one should note and among them is having your own "Landing Station" and at this time in Pakistan only two entities privilige that i.e. PTCL and Transworld. Transworld further carries an edge because TW1 cable's GNOC (not the company operated NOC but Cable NOC) is located in Karachi whereas SMW3 and SMW4 NOC and Network Administrator, both outside Pakistan, located in Singapore and Mumbai respectively. PTCL Landing Station bascially has its own NOC and that is not SMW3 or SMW4 GNOC.

-Multinet automatically falls out of the race having none of the two i.e. Original Cable NOC and Landing Station. 

-Transworld can create cross connection as well as collect performance monitoring / history alarm of other than Karachi station within no time whereas in SMW3 / SMW4, they’ve to launch formal request with NOC /Network Administrator (for service creation). 

-Power is also one of the very important and crtical factors in submarine cables. In Karachi both SMW3 &#38; SMW4 is Single End Feed station as far as their Power Feed Equipment is concerned and in case of failure, they’ll have to wait for Power Reconfiguration (normally not agreed by other parties) or Fault rectification of equipment and non-restorable customers will have to suffer a lot. Transworld has Double End Feed System, in case of failure of any of PFE, other PFE will take load within no time.

-Lower RTD from Karachi to Fujairah (12.291mSec) whereas it is 91.2 (SMW4) and 21(SMW3). Transworld also has the lower latency (130 ms) up to UK than PTCL(145-160 ms). 

-The good thing about being an Orascom Telecom company provides Transworld with an edge of having the Mobilink's long haul as it very own part. If you calculate all of the above and Transworld making active sales for last 8 months capturing Major ISPs like WorldCall (which is also TW's last mile partner in KHI), Nayatel (TW's last mile partner in ISB), Cybernet, Gerry's, BrainTel (also TW's lastmile partner in LHR) plus many more and Pakistan's biggest IPLC accounts like of Citi Bank, AT&#38;T, Circlenet...points automatically add up on the graph for Transworld. This is just 8 months of activity inside the market. I'm very sure that this company is going to make waves as compared to PTCL or anyother for that matter. We're all tired of the way PTCL works and operates and corporate sector is very keen to shift its business to some private opeartor.

Regards,
Bilal Mughal
bilal_mughal@msn.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-I guess when we talk about submarine cable business there are few things very important one should note and among them is having your own &#8220;Landing Station&#8221; and at this time in Pakistan only two entities privilige that i.e. PTCL and Transworld. Transworld further carries an edge because TW1 cable&#8217;s GNOC (not the company operated NOC but Cable NOC) is located in Karachi whereas SMW3 and SMW4 NOC and Network Administrator, both outside Pakistan, located in Singapore and Mumbai respectively. PTCL Landing Station bascially has its own NOC and that is not SMW3 or SMW4 GNOC.</p>
<p>-Multinet automatically falls out of the race having none of the two i.e. Original Cable NOC and Landing Station. </p>
<p>-Transworld can create cross connection as well as collect performance monitoring / history alarm of other than Karachi station within no time whereas in SMW3 / SMW4, they’ve to launch formal request with NOC /Network Administrator (for service creation). </p>
<p>-Power is also one of the very important and crtical factors in submarine cables. In Karachi both SMW3 &amp; SMW4 is Single End Feed station as far as their Power Feed Equipment is concerned and in case of failure, they’ll have to wait for Power Reconfiguration (normally not agreed by other parties) or Fault rectification of equipment and non-restorable customers will have to suffer a lot. Transworld has Double End Feed System, in case of failure of any of PFE, other PFE will take load within no time.</p>
<p>-Lower RTD from Karachi to Fujairah (12.291mSec) whereas it is 91.2 (SMW4) and 21(SMW3). Transworld also has the lower latency (130 ms) up to UK than PTCL(145-160 ms). </p>
<p>-The good thing about being an Orascom Telecom company provides Transworld with an edge of having the Mobilink&#8217;s long haul as it very own part. If you calculate all of the above and Transworld making active sales for last 8 months capturing Major ISPs like WorldCall (which is also TW&#8217;s last mile partner in KHI), Nayatel (TW&#8217;s last mile partner in ISB), Cybernet, Gerry&#8217;s, BrainTel (also TW&#8217;s lastmile partner in LHR) plus many more and Pakistan&#8217;s biggest IPLC accounts like of Citi Bank, AT&amp;T, Circlenet&#8230;points automatically add up on the graph for Transworld. This is just 8 months of activity inside the market. I&#8217;m very sure that this company is going to make waves as compared to PTCL or anyother for that matter. We&#8217;re all tired of the way PTCL works and operates and corporate sector is very keen to shift its business to some private opeartor.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Bilal Mughal<br />
<a href="mailto:bilal_mughal@msn.com">bilal_mughal@msn.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Salman Ahmed</title>
		<link>http://telecompk.net/2007/07/20/ftth-placeholder/#comment-951</link>
		<dc:creator>Salman Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you everyone for the information and explanation on various particulars. Following are some additions from my side concerning Multinet:

First of all let me clear one thing that TW1 is a private undersea cable project owned by Transworld associates (subsidiary of Orascom Telecom) and Transworld has no share in SEA-ME-WE-3 or SEA-ME-WE-4 Cable system.

About Multinet, a subsidiary of Telekom Malaysia promotes communications solutions to carriers &#38; enterprises in Pakistan by leveraging Telekom Malaysia’s extensive network capabilities around the globe and has entered the consumer market. 

By virtue of TM's partnership in the 20,000 km undersea cable – Sea-Me-We-4, Multinet is providing International bandwidth on TM's behalf from past 6 months to their corporate customers in Pakistan, making Multinet the first private company in Pakistan to offer the greatest diversity for international connectivity services to Pakistan via Sea-Me-We - 4. SMW-4’s multi-gigabit system allows Multinet to offer carriers and enterprises connectivity from speeds of 64K and above. Further to Multinet ability to provide international connectivity, Multinet is currently establishing its nationwide long haul optical fiber transmission network (Project Ittehad) in Pakistan, spanning a length of over 4,100 km connecting 107 cities to overcome bandwidth limitations of the domestic market. The infrastructure is built around the latest technology including full redundancy and self healing rings. They are also investing in deploying Metro Optical Fiber Rings in major metros - Lahore, Islamabad, &#38; Karachi in Phase I. Phase II shall comprise of 10 more cities. This shall enable them to connect homes &#38; offices directly to the world, ensuring no third party reliance and empowers them to provide great quality of service at the customer’s premises. 

I feel that they are on the right direction but they need to move fast on their long haul optical fiber project because Mobilink already started their long haul fiber and grabbing the market very easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you everyone for the information and explanation on various particulars. Following are some additions from my side concerning Multinet:</p>
<p>First of all let me clear one thing that TW1 is a private undersea cable project owned by Transworld associates (subsidiary of Orascom Telecom) and Transworld has no share in SEA-ME-WE-3 or SEA-ME-WE-4 Cable system.</p>
<p>About Multinet, a subsidiary of Telekom Malaysia promotes communications solutions to carriers &amp; enterprises in Pakistan by leveraging Telekom Malaysia’s extensive network capabilities around the globe and has entered the consumer market. </p>
<p>By virtue of TM&#8217;s partnership in the 20,000 km undersea cable – Sea-Me-We-4, Multinet is providing International bandwidth on TM&#8217;s behalf from past 6 months to their corporate customers in Pakistan, making Multinet the first private company in Pakistan to offer the greatest diversity for international connectivity services to Pakistan via Sea-Me-We - 4. SMW-4’s multi-gigabit system allows Multinet to offer carriers and enterprises connectivity from speeds of 64K and above. Further to Multinet ability to provide international connectivity, Multinet is currently establishing its nationwide long haul optical fiber transmission network (Project Ittehad) in Pakistan, spanning a length of over 4,100 km connecting 107 cities to overcome bandwidth limitations of the domestic market. The infrastructure is built around the latest technology including full redundancy and self healing rings. They are also investing in deploying Metro Optical Fiber Rings in major metros - Lahore, Islamabad, &amp; Karachi in Phase I. Phase II shall comprise of 10 more cities. This shall enable them to connect homes &amp; offices directly to the world, ensuring no third party reliance and empowers them to provide great quality of service at the customer’s premises. </p>
<p>I feel that they are on the right direction but they need to move fast on their long haul optical fiber project because Mobilink already started their long haul fiber and grabbing the market very easily.</p>
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		<title>By: VASWANI NAVAL</title>
		<link>http://telecompk.net/2007/07/20/ftth-placeholder/#comment-889</link>
		<dc:creator>VASWANI NAVAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 08:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess TW1 has no share in SE ME WE 4 Cable.</description>
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